Catching you up OOC

  1.  I am not mad at CCP nor do I think they screwed me over.  They have set rules about the content of Rookie Help Chat and I am thankful for the two and a half years that they let me walk right on the line.
  2. I am still a strong believer in masking communities stronger and hope we can find and implement ways/channels/whatever to point the rookies in the right direction.  I am talking social circles, here, not sending them straight to some of the big Cops and alliances (much as I do appreciate what they do for the game)

so I was in rookie help chat and music came up, that lead to where players could access eve music offline (soundcloud)  From there some of the old radio stations came up (There was a miners radio for Eve?) and I mentioned and linked Eve radio.  Out of habit I opened the link myself to make sure it was still good and started listening.  The music was what I call rock and roll and they were talking about getting a fleet together.  I managed to finish the Gallente swing of the Bus run and hightail it up to Amarr in time to join a kitchen sink fleet.

Look, it is not my fault.  Gremlins happen.  DJ Accy dropped and couold not get back on after chatting with me for a few minuted but Wakkachu stepped up, got the fleet rolling and we headed out.  Now I want to say right off that this was a very new player friendly fleet.  He started out slow and paused on agtes even in hisec ot make sure everyone was understanding the flight/orders.  We swung into low and the fleet aligned and warped as one (I only got lost and 3j off of the fleet once.)  As we went deeper we started to see hints of targets, a Thrasher followed nad was followed by us, each hoping the othert would make a mistake. Neither of us did.  Then, in Sahtogas, we saw the hints of a small group forming up.  A loki came and checked us out then left, soon he brought back friends.    And we fought.  Losses were on both sides as we slowly burned through the Vigilant, Myrmidon, Sacrelige and Loki  while we lost a Gila, Vexor, and Magus (FC). The four pilots from Pasta were willing to stand and fight and so were we.

In the aftermath Wakkachu commented that this was a rarity in Eve.  A good solid fight that could have gone either way.  It was fun and I am sure I was not the only one who had a touch of the shakes and a grin on my face.  GF’s were exchanged in local and I accidentally linked the killmail there instead of in fleet (I apologize to Pasta, this was unintentional and not mean tempered in any way.)  We then took a moment and headed back to hisec and I left fleet, happy and a big grin on my face.

See?  Eve is like that.  I can choose to do things and if I decide to mine (which I did on the weekend) then Eve is boring/zen(depending on who you ask, I enjoyed the peace).  If I choose to go looking for fleets and pvp? Well that was there also.  But HOW the HELL do we show that to the rookies?

3) I am thinking of actually applying to be a speaker at EveVegas because you all need some rest after pubcrawls and I can talk a room to sleep anytime.  Problem is?  Can Linq soundsystems handle Canadian Gremlins>

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Ups and Downs

The ship drifted, a local safe spot made long ago during a war was now just a nice place to ‘pull over’ and think.  It had been a mixed week.  He had flown in a fleet, been part of a pair of kills and, in turn, lost his own ship.  That had been the ‘up’ part of the week.  He had made the usual stops in career systems and helped a few pilots along their way.  Some answered, most didn’t but the routine was a comfortable one.  A quick call in rookie help to remind pilots to keep an eye on local and then call in local to see who would like  a free fitted ship and was relatively new.

Oh the accusations happened, now and again.  That he was a scammer or was somehow setting the pilots up for failure but for the most part it was same old same old.  Two years of doing the Bus Runs had built into a nice routine.  He could keep an eye on the news, on things coming and things that might come and still keep on the go.

But now?

The Powers the Be had politely but firmly informed Mike that he was not to ‘advertise’ the Bus in Rookie Help Chat, anymore.  He sighed.  It didn’t stop him from doing the rounds, just hamstrung one of the best ways to get in touch with new players.  He had agreed, hoped for better but agreed.  They had allowed him more than two years before they pulled that particular plug and he would find other ways to get the attention of the new pilots.

Maybe take a page from the Signal Cartel and start with fireworks?  He  smiled.  There was always something . . . it was time to experiment.  Close one door?  I will find a window or a chimney.  He set the destination for the next stop and left the safe spance, once more on the move.



Yup, still making runs and yes I do need to get the rookies attention.  I REALLY need to find someone with the skills and software to make me a billboard spot for in the station, after all they gotta remove the CSM camnpaign ads soon, why not get in on that?  The young are always attracted by bright movement.


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Eight by eight

He has an collage projected up on the wall,  pictures of pilots, 8 across and 8 down.8x8.jpg“What’s that rogues gallery for?”  Scotty looked up at the display and tried to remember if he had met any of them before, a few looked familiar.

“CSM Election.  64 candidates passed the first hurdle of basic literacy and the ability to follow simple written instructions.  Now I have to narrow it down . . . a LOT.”  Mike answered, still staring at the board.

“We going to do the roll call again?  Naming each and saying yeah or nay?”

“Sixty freaking four times?  No.  I am going to do them in small bunches and do some group eliminations.  Then do a more detailed examination of the ones that remain.”

“Sounds efficient but how do you do group eliminations without being . . . well, too heavy handed?”  Scotty squinted at some of the photos SURE he knew the faces.

Mike looked down at one hand and smiled.  “Perhaps, but if we are gonna get through dis ting, we needs da ‘eavy ‘and.”  He fiddled with his comma little and faces on the grid began to dim.

Scotty nodded at some of them, ones he recognized.  “Null?”

“Those with a strong backing of the null alliances do not need your average hisec pubbie to foul the purity of their vote.  Either they have the support of those who fly with them or they don’t.  Iffen they don’t then there is likely a reason for that and I should not vote for them then, either.    Now this is not to say that there are not some damn fine folks in there, incumbents, for example and I hope that their own damn people will be stepping up to the plate for them.  But I won’t.”  Mike tapped the comm and more faces faded.

“If they is not willing to make an effort beyond a ‘vote for me’ post then they is not worth making the effort to vote FOR.:  I want people able to engage with CCP and with the players.  If they cannot show basic skills in that direction then . . . no.”

Scotty looked closer at the board and grinned.  “Not bad. But you still have almost 40 to go through.  Any other filters?”

“I could make up some rules and filter more but now I carve from the other side.  Those that I want to see get elected.  Or at least will be on my ballot.”

“What is the difference.?”

“Tactics of the election process itself.  the STV voting process is a bit complex but it does allow you to have a more direct second and third choice.  So these 4 are on my ballot for sure.

Steve Ronuken


Toxic Yaken

commander aze

“Old boy network in play?”  Scotty asked, skeptically.

“To a certain extent?  I suppose that is a fair question.  Steve is an old boy and someone I have worked with in the past.  He is a solid worker and the best representative for his area of expertise.  A known quantity and worth electing.  Roe I have worked with for quite a while and is very knowledgeable with market and industry.  I am sure some other candidates may say the same but I know Roe does walk the walk.  Commnade aze and I cross paths often enough in working with alphas and he is good in communication skills.  That is one of those enbulous qualities that the campaigns do not focus on well enough.  If you don’t speed gud den why wuld CCP lissen ta ya?”

“Yeah yeah, Toxic?”

“Two reasons.  One, he does espouse the same things I have been fighting for and with, and two, he is part of what I refer to as the hisec slate.  The three of them have joined together in hopes that at least one of them will get elected.  Roe, Toxic, and Aze.  I like the initiative rather than see them split votes and in the end none of them get elected.  And before you ask?  No, I do not have a preferred order and I personally do not think one is needed.  The STV SHOULD take care of that.”

Scotty looked back at the board, many dark and a few bright.  “Still have six more slots to face and sill about half of them are neutral.”

Mike wiped his face with his hand.  “I know, I know.  Now hear is where some of the darks get lit again.  The last CSM was good, damn good.  If they had drama they kept it quiet which is down right amazing.  So I have . .



The Judge

All are good communicators and represent players well.  A proven track record goes a long way with me.”

Scotty pretended to count on his finders. “Seven, three to go.”

“Now it comes down to personal gut feelings and or the recommendations of others.  It also sometimes is a section of the game I would like to see supported or covered.  Based on those? We have null sov, wh space, hisec, industry, technical covered above.  I am not advocating type of space but type of activity you DO in space as something I would want to see a broad representation covered.  Players who have ‘done it all’ are also good as they have the best chance of thinking through ‘If A then what happens to B’ lines of reasoning.  I told Dirk the same thing, the other day when we were interviewing three of the a fore mentioned candidates.”

“Not running but still deep in the process?”  Scotty asked softly.

“Hmm?   Look, I believe in the process of the CSM, in the way that the players are elected and what they do once they are elected.  Unlike some of the naysayers who call for its end?  I have been on the inside, arguably during one of the least functional times, to boot.  It wore me out but it did not burn me out, embitter me, or change what I thought of the process as a whole.  I don’t look at people based on where they are from but what they do (or do not do).  Based on that I have a shortlist of names that may make my ballot, depending on how much effort they put in over the next few days, interviews, engaging  in debate, that sort of thing. Among them are people like rhiload Feron-drake,  Ariel Rin, Juvenius Drakonius, Erika Mizune, DJ Thomas, Lorelei Ierendi and yes, even Xenuria.”

Scotty stared.  “Are you having some sort of attack?  Should I call a jump clone Medic?”

Mike grinned.  “I am curious if he can get elected again without (probably) the support of the Goons.  Look, there are podcasts to listen to and I may even have missed a name or two or missed that one or two of the above did not make the cut.  I honestly need to do MORE reading and more work but I am on it and have a good set of folks I like running and a few more slots to fill.”



Main thing?  I plan to vote.  I don’t care if none of the folks I choose get in, voting is still what I will do.  I don’t care if null manage to lock down all ten seats.  I will vote next year, too.

I don’t give up because there is opposition.  I don’t give up when I lose.

I am still here, still playing and still caring enough to write and speak and opinionate all to hell and back.

My thanks to podcasters and streamers and other writers who do have an opinion, do still care and whom I will be reading, listening toi etc just to try to form or reconsider my choices.

If you made it this far?  Tell me if you have someone you are supporting and be in the draw for a battleship.  No entry fee other than giving a damn opinion of your own.

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BB 80 Voices and wrappers

Welcome to the continuing monthly EVE Blog Banters and our 80th edition! For more details about what the blog banters are please visit the Blog Banter page.
Blog Banter 80 – A Voice for All Players?

CCP Seagull ecourages you to get involved in CSM12 and put your name forward to be a Space-Politician. On his blog Neville Smit noted that CSM11 had done a good job with minimum of drama. However he said he’d not be covering CSM12 like he has in previous years as he sees no point. The power-blocs will vote on who they want and unless Steve Ronuken manages to get on CSM12 it is almost certainly going to have every seat taken by the big null-sec blocs.

Is Neville right? Is the CSM moving more and more into just a voice for 0.0? Is this a bad thing? Are the hi-sec, low-sec and WH players going to lose out badly or is it really not an issue as its the same game? Could a totally null-sec dominated CSM 12 give a balanced voice for everyone?

This banter took my head in a dozen different directions.  64 candidates running and a lot of them ARE aligned with major nullsec power blocs.


I took a step back and asked myself why I ran for so many years and why I will run again, one day.  I like this game.  I want it to thrive and grow and succeed.  If I suddenly became a member of Brave Legion or Pandemic Goons then that would not change who I am and what I try to do.  Not all people can be labeled by the group they belong to as being that and only that.

Some are . . . I will readily admit that some run for office to tick some imaginary ego checklist or to make the most for them and their friends or just for the perverse pleasure of rubbing others noses in it.  ‘See what we can do, pubbies?’  But not all.

Eve is not one community.  We are a city or even a country.  We have the rough and tumble cities and the great farmlands.  The suburbs and the inner city ghettos and they ALL are part of what Eve is, for better or worse.  Each of us, in our own way is part of the tapestry of the game.  from the alpha miner right up to the leader of a major coalition.  One may think he/she is more important that the other but that is a matter of perspective.  Either could quit tomorrow and another would step in to fill the gap.  Or not, but the game would go on.

Look, the key thing is both of them want the game to continue so they can keep playing.  For that?  CCP needs to manage to continue as a business.  Only a foolish hunter will kill all the game in an area.  He will have nothing to hunt next year.  Same fo fishing, kill all the fish in a lake via pollution or poor watershed decisions and that is the end of that fishing hole.  I seriously doubt any of the candidates want to end Eve.  But I will readily admit that some want to make Eve better for themselves and their friends at the expense of others game-play.

Every year I hear calls for the end of hisec.  (sigh)

Every year I hear the doomsayers point out how the null sec blocks will almost rule the Council (or if you are really angry, the RMT coalitions) and that this is why the Council needs to be stopped or the representation needs to change.

um, no

The council does not work as a voting body (anymore).  Every man, woman, trilobite elected has an equal voice.  CSM 9 got rid of officers.  CSM12 got rid of a difference in attendees, either you are ON and going to the summits or you are not.  Every voice has equal value and three cannot yell down one.  I have seen it tried, they failed.  Matter fo fact I find the one lone voice sometimes carries the day if they are reasonable and solid in their arguments.

I have seen several GOOD player reps who happened to also be members of large null blocs aregue FOR things that would not be in the best interest of the null entities.  Advise ‘Do that and we will Do this and take you to the cleaners.  Not a good plan.’.  I have seen others who claimed to be representing one group wind up in the back pocket of an entirely different organization.

Now I will readily admit I am a optimist.  Hopeless one, at that.  But I will be voting and for the people and the platforms and the reputations they bring as human beings.  Not their kill counts, or the words of their ‘great leaders’.  I do hope Steve gets in, that is true.  He and I have agreed on a lot of things, over the years.  But I am ok with many others being elected because I see past the wrapper of whatever alliance they are in this week and look at the player, not the character.

Do not tell me the CSM is run by null, tell me it is a player council and they want the game to be better.  I will be happy.



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OOC Minutes (I finish them)

Or they finish me.  Jury is still out.

From here they hit Eve Metrics with a lot of graphs worth taking a look at.  Aryth asked for less information in the eve financial reports under the justification that it was free intel not achievable via other means.  Personally? I love data and am sad to see that portion of the report go but easy mode has never been the Eve way, has it?

They provided sales graphs of skins, how most folks cash in LP for implants.  There are graphs attacked to the minutes showing some of these if you want to see in more detail..  Me, I like graphs, data, that sort of thing even if I hardly ever use the information in game.

Then they went on to the third party app, you do know that there is an app for Eve, right?  The first thing Aryth asked for, here made me nervous and maybe I just am a shade too paranoid.  He wants a way to see if a user is using 2 factor authentication.  Would that not make choosing victims to hack easier?  Then the Council was asked if they wanted self destructing messages as an option in the mail system (council said yes). I wonder if they would show, somehow, on API or could a spai work openly and not get caught?

CCP Orca quickly went around to ask people what feature they would want to see added:
•Xenuria: See clothing items on character when looking at your character, even if only
text based -“My character was fit with the following”
•Gorski: Changing skill queue from the app, even being able to see the whole skill queue.
•Bobmon: Community portal/feed, access to fiction
•Steve: Info/Item Database, Show mailing list name in the mail
•Innominate: Better Corporation/Alliance broadcasting, either through notification or mail. Reply all issue is real!
•Judge: See all mailing lists/labels
 •Aryth: Seeing assets, with search and price appraisal
Me?  I’d like some archive feature for threads and such, collapsing structures but they did not ask me.
Aryth asked that 0% tax transactions be logged and that was approved by game design.  I guess there are other ways to see that so it is ok intel.  Look, I am going to be doing a candidate review soon but Steve questions and discussions and monitoring of this sort of thing ARE the reason why he is way way up on my ballot.  He could discuss endpoint of the api, and crest and just basically be our side of the tech connection. </stevecampaign mode>
Next came Community, something some might argue does not exist (Hi Sion).  There was some hush hush discussion followed by more open topics like ISD (certification is getting faster soon (they say)) and the communications with players through various websites will slowly come to be just a one stop shop. (That I heartily approve of)  Mr Hyde and Nashh both asked for more support and connectivity to the Alliance tournament and told that it would be forthcoming.
CCP Falcon added that going into the future, the tournament is also going to be
more heavily integrated into the marketing strategy.  There was then some discussion on how to improve the tournament, and how we can better promote both the tournament and those pilots participating.
Some more work with twitch streamers was also mentioned.
Then came wormhole session but when everyone saw there were others around the cloaked up and searched for the door out.  Noobman presented some of the results/issues from the WH Townhall he had held earlier.  Between the data and anecdotal evidence?  Ascension was good for wh space.  Again the new scanning mechanism was complimented and should be a boon for the WH dwellers so I AM looking forward to seeing this new marvel. Noobman continued to add details to things the WH folks would like to see to the point that Aryth commented that it sounded like WH wanted null without the relative danger.  Having lived in wh space, myself, I never thought I was safe, there.  But to each their own.
Then came the Project Discovery session where it was revealed that damn, we Eve players can grind with the best of them.  The discovery atlas was supposed to last for months and we knocked it off in three weeks.  Result?  Other sciences are looking to use us as an asset (including we have found, since, the search for exoplanets.)  Bottom line?  we done good.
Last session was CSM Organization.This had some solid changes, 14 members down to 10 but all are invited to all summits.  When asked if someone might not be invited CCP indicated that if that was the case?
they would most likely have reached the point where CCP could justify removing that member from the council.
They then discussed other logistics of the summits themselves.
I am not sure how many (if any) of you struggle through reading all of this stuff I write but this is the end of the winter summit.  There were good points and some lows and some things that made me go hmmm.
Next up on my writing docket is a pair of pieces about the CSM election.  Then I get to write stories again.  I am honestly looking forward to doing that.
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OOC Minutes the third


The New Eden Store

It hurts the mercantile side of me to see money left on the table.  I don’t think gouging is a good idea but to ignore a sale is just plain wrong.  The store is slow, iffy at the best of times and seems to ignore a lot of potential.

CCP opened the meeting by adding that they are aware that the store UI needs work, and
are planning to make improvements.

Good, now show us you mean it. CSM had good suggestions including more in game advertising, hats, guns, cat ears (Jin, you are weird) corp and alliance skins, citadel skins, Serenity skins (have you seen images from the Chinese server?) and other ideas.

CCP added that there are still discussions around how at the moment there is a very particular mood and style to EVE, and they are concerned about eroding it if they release things that do not match the aesthetic of the universe.
it ended with
Mr Hyde brought up how Alpha state players have a limited selection of monetization options, to which CCP replied that they are looking to heavily expand the available items for them.
So many good ideas in there and I encourage everyone to keep the pressure on if you think Eve is a visual game, at times.
Speaking of visual. The next item was the scanning and d-scan UI.  After a comedic start they got right into the fine details of something we should be seeing in the very near future on Sisi and soon after on Tranquility.  I have heard a few good things about it but I can easily predict the howl of outrage that ‘things changed’ and demands that there is a button to bring back the old way.  There always is.
After that came another top secret meeting that appears to be very long range plans.  A recipe from one of the aussie devs (I swear, I ever get elected again and I am bringin in recipes galore, I do loves me food)
Branding was next and this is something that enjoyed debating back when I was in the CSM.  I still think there is a tug of war going on within CCP as to what Eve IS.  Dark and distopian or is the palette supposed to be more open?  The Scope video guy was introduced (love his work) and then they got into the business of how Fanfest will look.  Then they looked at some more Scope videos for the new players and from there went into the billboards in space.  Soon they will be click linkable (want to know more?)

I truly wish I could find someone with the skills to make a Operation Magic School Bus ad that I could get onto stations and billboards.  Graphics and animation havenever been my thing.  But I digress.  Even some event sites would become clickable and we would be able to write our history, leave our marks.

CCP Orca then talked about the current state of the EVE Store. She explained that the current shipping prices are due to the low volume of purchases, and that at this stage CCP didn’t have any options to change it without an incre ase in volume through the store.

Catch 22, it won;t get cheap unless we buy and we won’t buy unless it gets cheap.  sigh

Then came the balance sessions with the usual suspects showing up.  Discussed were T3 cruiser, nullification effects, static bubbles, shuttles with interdiction nullification, and Alpha balance issues like the ability to fire T2 ammo.  Light missiles and rapid lights were brought up by Mr Hyde (hater of frigates). Heavy Interdictor Scrams , armor plates and Shield Extenders for battleships, Shield Capitals, shield slaves, Battle Rorquals.

CP Fozzie said they have some ideas and they did want to make a change, but also had a separate proposal for feedback: making it so that Rorquals could only PANIC when in proximity to an asteroid. The CSM was receptive to the idea.
Mr Hyde also brought up the issue of battleships having cargoholds that were a bit small,

some ships have lock ranges and scan resolutions that are out of line with the surrounding ships, Large Cap batteries . . .the list goes on and you may want to read that section to see if things you are interested in are also covered.  (my list is not conclusive)
Last session (for this post) was another whack at the NPE.  This time they started by talking about the career agents and how they plan on going from 5 to 3.  It then segued into a discussion on what should be taught by the game vs by other players.  Should the NPE have a pvp component? How much repetition is need to actually teach something?  How hard should a lesson be and how much loss should you hit them with so they learn . . .ships die, you don’t.  What does need to be taught.  This is something ongoing and if you have feedback make sure you communicate it to CCP and CSM.  Some interesting ideas were evaluations for the performance of the lessons so the player got some feedback.  (Man that will drive some OCD’s mad).
CCP replied that there had been considerations for making each empire just have a single starter system and school instead of three. The CSM was generally supportive of this idea.
This I am not sure of.  My teacher sense tells me big classrooms lead to other problems and it also would mean the loss of two of the three new npc corps.  Who goes, who stays?

feel free to read it for yourself if you do want more detail. I will finish this commentary in the next post.

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OOC Minutes part 2

Yeah yeah, so the first was in character and this one isn’t.  Live with it.  I am tired and the CSM election looms on the horizon like some bloated smog rolling in from a distant city.  So this one is quick(ish) and to the point.

NPE.  I took part in the NPE townhall that preceded the summit along with sending some of the CSM folks my notes on the new player experience that I have made while helping in Rookie Help Chat.  I was saddened to hear that CCP Ghost was sick and unable to attend the meetings but . . . there ya go.

I like that there were NUMBERS and support for decisions as opposed to anecdotal complaints and reactions.  Now being a math teacher I will be the first to admit that stats are a form of delusion and lying far too often but it is nice to have some data to hang your towels on.

CCP then showed the completion rates for the tutorial, with 24% of players completing the tutorial and 8% skipping.

 . . .

Xenuria asked about the remaining 68% of players, to which CCP replied that they had neither completed the tutorial nor skipped the tutorial.

Damn. over 2/3 quit before they ever see the game properly.  They never see the sandbox, Just a bit of the slide into it.  They deep dived the data a bit more to identify where the most people wuit WITHIN the tutorial and CCP is trying to smooth that speed bump.  If actions move forward based on that meeting (and some changes did show as recently as this past Tuesday forcing me to make another new character and do the NPE again) and they continue to iterate on it I hope to see that 2/3 drop out rate lower.

Then they got on to UI and man is that a topic that can create an argument in Eve.  Some people want to do a massive overhaul and others well, then there are others.

How do we give feedback, suggestions, let out our inner dev and apply all our training in UI development to help Eve do it right?  Well even that was discussed but CCP is not about to open up Tranquility with UI dev tools for us to ‘make our own proof of concept’.

They brushed on the issue of scaling and I wish more details was in the minutes as they seemed to be talking about 90% and lower and me and others with visual isses would like to see more discussion that addresses lareger fonts, and adaptations for colour blind players.

The next session was Customer service Impact of Ascension and things like tickets, persistent bugs and the like.  Yes with the influx of players and problems the GM team got swamped, we know.

wow, just . . . wow.  Complain all you want but my hat is off to any CS team who survived that with some shreds of sanity left.

Frome there they went into something I am surprised got a session, Mining ops by NPC’s and the AI (well AI, yeah)  But then think about it.  Them moving around in the world, making it more than just us capsuleers makes for a more dynamic game.

From there they moved on to Moon Mining and Drilling Platforms.  A LOT of this session was under NDA until a dev blog comes out describing the changes to come and how they will change the face of null (if at all).  Once they got on to more general structures many of the CSM identified the pain point that is fueling.  The 0% transaction taxes for the purpose of logging and lockable blueprints and other loopholes that we Eve players ALWAYS manage to find.

The last thing I will mention is the Security session.  Steve, really?  That is your best macaroni and cheese recipe?

Is the link if you want to read it for yourself because, as I said before.  This is reaction and what I see as the highlights.

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Minute minutiae

Scotty found him sitting in a corner booth nursing a dark drink and looking even darker as he went over something on his comms.  “Got turned down as tax exempt, again?”

“Nah, just looking over the minutes of the PTB 1.”

“Ah CSM minutes come out and you were not in them.  But the thing is now what is missing but what is there, right?”

“Along with a bit of reading between the lines, yeah.”  Mike waved a hand both indicating his need for a refill and one for Scotty.  “Let me take you through a bit of it. There IS some meat for a lot of folks if they bother to look, which, of course, most won’t.

First thing was the welcome and this meeting often sets the tone for a good part of the rest of the summit. This time is was a question CCP asked the CSM.

CCP Seagull then asked the CSM two questions individually: Where is EVE now, and what your dream change is for EVE:

Now any number of candidates for the Election . . . ”

“That you are not running in” Scotty interjected.

“That I am not running in, this year. Any of them will tell you that we are not junior designers.  So this kind of open ended question almost feels like a trap or a request for us to stretch and try those unused skills.  It DOES give you an insight into the members of the council.  The most simple measure is whether they see the universe as in a good or bad place and the second being what they would fix, if they could.  This sort of thing is great fodder for those looking to vote accurately in the next election.  LOOK at what they said last time they were asked directly by CCP.  What would have been interesting would have been to ask the same questions at the end of the summit.2 But it was an interesting starting point for the summit and a way to see if the folks we elected did and said what they promised they would. Some stayed very true to form.”

“Like who?”

“No, that is another conversation entirely, when I talk about candidates for the next election. Now the thing is that these ‘minutes’ are not a verbatim recording BUT a precis of the proceedings. A LOT gets left out as each meeting is at least an hour. The next meeting was the one I would like to be the fly on the wall for. It was the Future laid out and it is always interesting to compare intent with results.


Overall CCP considers Ascension a success so far.
CCP then explained that they are continuing work on structures.This includes not just adding the Drilling platforms, but also fixing and expanding the existing structures.
CCP then explained that they are working on deciding on what they want the next expansion to be.
CCP Orca explained some upcoming changes to CCP’s web presence,consolidating the various websites into a single website.
CCP Dren then explained for NPE,they are looking now at Empire Selection and Character creation, and will be also looking at the Career Agents.
Overall: Fix good ideas that are currently implemented with some issues, then
launch into new stuff.

“Now, no doubt, there will be cries from every quarter about the things that are not mentioned.  There always are.  But they need to remember that this is an overview, not an itemized list of things that will be. But they never do remember that and so the wailing continues.

From there they went on to discuss the communications from the PTB to the general population.  It was (and I agree) deemed better if it all is under one umbrella3 Then came the news of new forums.”


“An archaic asynchronous tool we capsuleers use to leave messages for each other.  Some use it, some do not.  I, out of habit, still patrol and read specific sections.  It looks like the changes are . . . well, interesting.  In some ways the tool will be easier to use but in other ways?  I am not as happy with the disconnect to who we are from who we present as.  CSM council members DID spot that an manage to get the message across to CCP on that point.  From how we talk to each other they started in on the more interesting social interactions.”


Mike nodded, “Shooting. More specifically when we are asked by organizations to do the shooting, also known as events.  I was not happy with some of the information coming out.  Namely  . . .

CCP started by explaining that there isn’t a dedicated engagement team at this time. At this time, most of the events are currently being run on the side by other teams

But took some small measure of hope in

CCP is aiming to hire in some new devs to a new team to work on future events. They would be continuing to expand on the Scope Network work that Team Astro Sparkle previously worked on.

Bottom line is that this sort of thing, while liked by a fair number of pilots is under served.  The rewards types, encounter styles were all discussed and I found myself nodding with a lot of what the CSM said to CCP.  More engaging,  more varied, less predictable.  Prizes that hit the ‘gotta catch em all’ button.  Prizes that boost skills or have ‘open a box and be surprised.  More, better, challenging.”  Mike sighed.  “I need a small break to go out and do a Bus run, can we pick this up when I get back?”

“Where am I gonna go?”  Scotty waved him off.


Lessons and footnotes

This covers about the first 12 pages of the 52 pages in the minutes.  Just my impressions and yes, I will be hitting the next set soon but as one person put it . . . You? Writing a “short” commentary? I don’t believe it (Thanks, Kael)

He is right.  But I will plow through this THEN do a candidates summary.  (wow, lot on the plate)

1) Powers That Be
2) Hell, how would you answer? Comment below if you would
3) One website rather than the scattering that exists these days.

fly it like you won it


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I know, I know.  Charity in Eve is considered the equivalent of a vegan shark (not happening).  Unless there is strict enforcement of the charity via CCP then people always wonder if it is an intricate scam or the real thing. Some are sure of it . . . see the comments.

It does not help when we have things like Olivia happen.  Trust is hard to come by in Eve and even harder to keep.  It makes you unsure if any charity is real and that is not a bad thing because a lot of them are not, in game or out.

So why am I writing about the blatantly obvious?  Because there ARE real charities.  There are people who use the donations for what they say they will.  If you convert the idea that ‘one charity is false’ into the broader ‘all charities are scams’ you are making a mistake.  It is not a mistake that will cost you  anything but it is a mistake, just the same.

Do I know FOR SURE which player charities are real and which are fake?  Nope.  Does that stop me from being involved?  Nope, and Max said it best when he said (and I paraphrase) that the Coast Guard answers all the false calls because some of them might turn out to be real.  Do due diligence, ask around, pull on loose threads but do NOT just assume everything is a rip off.  Even in Eve

I see this from the other end.  People unwilling to believe that I am handing out free fitted ships in Career systems.  Unwilling to even check it out for fear that I have some foolproof scheme to make them part with all 1 mill of assets they may have.  Usually if two get a ship and say thanks then the rest start to ask if it is real and then I will hand out 6 or 7.  Other systems?  Not a peep.  Doesn’t deter me, I just move on to the next system and try again.

What the is NOT is a request for donations.  I do not need anything for the Bus right now as a few donors have helped me along to the point where I can run smoothly for a month or two. (Thank you to regular donors and new ones like Iskstarter.

I doubt I have changed anything writing this but sometimes if I don’t get up on a soapbox and yell I feel like I didn’t try.  I try to try even when it is trying.

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The scotch seemed to absorb the lights of the bar and transmute it into a golden fire.  Mike swirled his appreciatively before setting the glass down and continuing.  “So we’s given out a few tings this season.  Mainly ships but now comes the more interesting draw.”

Dee smiled’  “What makes a draw interesting?” 

“I asks them to choose what they want to draw FOR.  Did this with ships a week or so back where they had to choose the navy frigate they wanted to be considered for.  One person won one because he was the only damn person who asked for that specific Frigate.  A Minnie one, iffen you is wonderin.”  But now I am asking which folks would rather have, Seeds or Plans.  They either get some starting isk to try their hand at trade OR I can give them a few BPO’s to try manufacturin.”

“How are the choices trending?”

Mike pulled out his comm pad and set it next to the scotch bottle.  “Lessee.  Looks to be 3 to 2 in favour of the Plans.”

“Those are the smart folks, in my opinion.  Isk is nice but a way to MAKE isk is better  But they would need a place to USE those plans wouldn’t they?”

Mikes eyes narrowed.  “Why is it I think you have a place in mind and that be a rhetorical question?”

“Because you are not as drunk as you should be.   Mercenary Coalition is part of the recently announced NETC citadel network, with our Keepstar in Basgerin “Tortuga” which has been declared a freeport.”  He started to tick off items as he went on . . .

* MC is going to go beyond just providing waypoints, however. We will be providing
* Market and cloning services at “Tortuga”
* A separate Sotiyo Engineering Complex optimized for component production
* A separate Azbel EC optimized for research
* A separate Azbel EC optimized for Invention and BPO Copying
* A separate Astrahus citadel optimized for reprocessing and ice refining

– All of these facilities will be free-ported

– For those not yet comfortable in null, we will also maintain a market hub Fortizar in Pulin on the Basgerin gate grid.

– Although MC can not provide security/escort 24/7 365 for those jumping in from Pulin to Basgerin, let’s just say that camping that gate and shooting customers will be frowned upon.”

“Frowns take many forms, I presume your displeasure would be indicated with armaments?”  Mike took a drink and smiled.

Dee spread his hands wide “We are an expressive and demonstrative people.”

“Well I will put te words out when I announces who won.  Whether they decides to relocate ta ya is there business just as ours, if you recall, is ta enjoy this bottle and your glass seems to be empty.”

“Dry atmosphere, I blame evaporation.”  Dee said, reaching for the bottle.


I want to thank the donors of late for their generosity to Operation Magic School Bus as well as CCP Mimic and Guard for the nice shout out on the last o7 show..  I have been able to give things OTHER than fitted ships, now and again.  Christmas Day 5 players got a plex each.

The above is also about choices we make (or think we have to make) in game.

You keep making your choices and have fun doing so.

May your scotch not evaporate and fly it like you won it


(for the record?  I drink rum, not scotch)



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