OOC Minutes the third


The New Eden Store

It hurts the mercantile side of me to see money left on the table.  I don’t think gouging is a good idea but to ignore a sale is just plain wrong.  The store is slow, iffy at the best of times and seems to ignore a lot of potential.

CCP opened the meeting by adding that they are aware that the store UI needs work, and
are planning to make improvements.

Good, now show us you mean it. CSM had good suggestions including more in game advertising, hats, guns, cat ears (Jin, you are weird) corp and alliance skins, citadel skins, Serenity skins (have you seen images from the Chinese server?) and other ideas.

CCP added that there are still discussions around how at the moment there is a very particular mood and style to EVE, and they are concerned about eroding it if they release things that do not match the aesthetic of the universe.
it ended with
Mr Hyde brought up how Alpha state players have a limited selection of monetization options, to which CCP replied that they are looking to heavily expand the available items for them.
So many good ideas in there and I encourage everyone to keep the pressure on if you think Eve is a visual game, at times.
Speaking of visual. The next item was the scanning and d-scan UI.  After a comedic start they got right into the fine details of something we should be seeing in the very near future on Sisi and soon after on Tranquility.  I have heard a few good things about it but I can easily predict the howl of outrage that ‘things changed’ and demands that there is a button to bring back the old way.  There always is.
After that came another top secret meeting that appears to be very long range plans.  A recipe from one of the aussie devs (I swear, I ever get elected again and I am bringin in recipes galore, I do loves me food)
Branding was next and this is something that enjoyed debating back when I was in the CSM.  I still think there is a tug of war going on within CCP as to what Eve IS.  Dark and distopian or is the palette supposed to be more open?  The Scope video guy was introduced (love his work) and then they got into the business of how Fanfest will look.  Then they looked at some more Scope videos for the new players and from there went into the billboards in space.  Soon they will be click linkable (want to know more?)


I truly wish I could find someone with the skills to make a Operation Magic School Bus ad that I could get onto stations and billboards.  Graphics and animation havenever been my thing.  But I digress.  Even some event sites would become clickable and we would be able to write our history, leave our marks.

CCP Orca then talked about the current state of the EVE Store. She explained that the current shipping prices are due to the low volume of purchases, and that at this stage CCP didn’t have any options to change it without an incre ase in volume through the store.

Catch 22, it won;t get cheap unless we buy and we won’t buy unless it gets cheap.  sigh

Then came the balance sessions with the usual suspects showing up.  Discussed were T3 cruiser, nullification effects, static bubbles, shuttles with interdiction nullification, and Alpha balance issues like the ability to fire T2 ammo.  Light missiles and rapid lights were brought up by Mr Hyde (hater of frigates). Heavy Interdictor Scrams , armor plates and Shield Extenders for battleships, Shield Capitals, shield slaves, Battle Rorquals.

CP Fozzie said they have some ideas and they did want to make a change, but also had a separate proposal for feedback: making it so that Rorquals could only PANIC when in proximity to an asteroid. The CSM was receptive to the idea.
Mr Hyde also brought up the issue of battleships having cargoholds that were a bit small,

some ships have lock ranges and scan resolutions that are out of line with the surrounding ships, Large Cap batteries . . .the list goes on and you may want to read that section to see if things you are interested in are also covered.  (my list is not conclusive)
Last session (for this post) was another whack at the NPE.  This time they started by talking about the career agents and how they plan on going from 5 to 3.  It then segued into a discussion on what should be taught by the game vs by other players.  Should the NPE have a pvp component? How much repetition is need to actually teach something?  How hard should a lesson be and how much loss should you hit them with so they learn . . .ships die, you don’t.  What does need to be taught.  This is something ongoing and if you have feedback make sure you communicate it to CCP and CSM.  Some interesting ideas were evaluations for the performance of the lessons so the player got some feedback.  (Man that will drive some OCD’s mad).
CCP replied that there had been considerations for making each empire just have a single starter system and school instead of three. The CSM was generally supportive of this idea.
This I am not sure of.  My teacher sense tells me big classrooms lead to other problems and it also would mean the loss of two of the three new npc corps.  Who goes, who stays?

feel free to read it for yourself if you do want more detail. I will finish this commentary in the next post.

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OOC Minutes part 2

Yeah yeah, so the first was in character and this one isn’t.  Live with it.  I am tired and the CSM election looms on the horizon like some bloated smog rolling in from a distant city.  So this one is quick(ish) and to the point.

NPE.  I took part in the NPE townhall that preceded the summit along with sending some of the CSM folks my notes on the new player experience that I have made while helping in Rookie Help Chat.  I was saddened to hear that CCP Ghost was sick and unable to attend the meetings but . . . there ya go.

I like that there were NUMBERS and support for decisions as opposed to anecdotal complaints and reactions.  Now being a math teacher I will be the first to admit that stats are a form of delusion and lying far too often but it is nice to have some data to hang your towels on.

CCP then showed the completion rates for the tutorial, with 24% of players completing the tutorial and 8% skipping.

 . . .

Xenuria asked about the remaining 68% of players, to which CCP replied that they had neither completed the tutorial nor skipped the tutorial.

Damn. over 2/3 quit before they ever see the game properly.  They never see the sandbox, Just a bit of the slide into it.  They deep dived the data a bit more to identify where the most people wuit WITHIN the tutorial and CCP is trying to smooth that speed bump.  If actions move forward based on that meeting (and some changes did show as recently as this past Tuesday forcing me to make another new character and do the NPE again) and they continue to iterate on it I hope to see that 2/3 drop out rate lower.

Then they got on to UI and man is that a topic that can create an argument in Eve.  Some people want to do a massive overhaul and others well, then there are others.

How do we give feedback, suggestions, let out our inner dev and apply all our training in UI development to help Eve do it right?  Well even that was discussed but CCP is not about to open up Tranquility with UI dev tools for us to ‘make our own proof of concept’.

They brushed on the issue of scaling and I wish more details was in the minutes as they seemed to be talking about 90% and lower and me and others with visual isses would like to see more discussion that addresses lareger fonts, and adaptations for colour blind players.

The next session was Customer service Impact of Ascension and things like tickets, persistent bugs and the like.  Yes with the influx of players and problems the GM team got swamped, we know.

wow, just . . . wow.  Complain all you want but my hat is off to any CS team who survived that with some shreds of sanity left.

Frome there they went into something I am surprised got a session, Mining ops by NPC’s and the AI (well AI, yeah)  But then think about it.  Them moving around in the world, making it more than just us capsuleers makes for a more dynamic game.

From there they moved on to Moon Mining and Drilling Platforms.  A LOT of this session was under NDA until a dev blog comes out describing the changes to come and how they will change the face of null (if at all).  Once they got on to more general structures many of the CSM identified the pain point that is fueling.  The 0% transaction taxes for the purpose of logging and lockable blueprints and other loopholes that we Eve players ALWAYS manage to find.

The last thing I will mention is the Security session.  Steve, really?  That is your best macaroni and cheese recipe?


Is the link if you want to read it for yourself because, as I said before.  This is reaction and what I see as the highlights.

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Minute minutiae

Scotty found him sitting in a corner booth nursing a dark drink and looking even darker as he went over something on his comms.  “Got turned down as tax exempt, again?”

“Nah, just looking over the minutes of the PTB 1.”

“Ah CSM minutes come out and you were not in them.  But the thing is now what is missing but what is there, right?”

“Along with a bit of reading between the lines, yeah.”  Mike waved a hand both indicating his need for a refill and one for Scotty.  “Let me take you through a bit of it. There IS some meat for a lot of folks if they bother to look, which, of course, most won’t.

First thing was the welcome and this meeting often sets the tone for a good part of the rest of the summit. This time is was a question CCP asked the CSM.

CCP Seagull then asked the CSM two questions individually: Where is EVE now, and what your dream change is for EVE:

Now any number of candidates for the Election . . . ”

“That you are not running in” Scotty interjected.

“That I am not running in, this year. Any of them will tell you that we are not junior designers.  So this kind of open ended question almost feels like a trap or a request for us to stretch and try those unused skills.  It DOES give you an insight into the members of the council.  The most simple measure is whether they see the universe as in a good or bad place and the second being what they would fix, if they could.  This sort of thing is great fodder for those looking to vote accurately in the next election.  LOOK at what they said last time they were asked directly by CCP.  What would have been interesting would have been to ask the same questions at the end of the summit.2 But it was an interesting starting point for the summit and a way to see if the folks we elected did and said what they promised they would. Some stayed very true to form.”

“Like who?”

“No, that is another conversation entirely, when I talk about candidates for the next election. Now the thing is that these ‘minutes’ are not a verbatim recording BUT a precis of the proceedings. A LOT gets left out as each meeting is at least an hour. The next meeting was the one I would like to be the fly on the wall for. It was the Future laid out and it is always interesting to compare intent with results.


Overall CCP considers Ascension a success so far.
CCP then explained that they are continuing work on structures.This includes not just adding the Drilling platforms, but also fixing and expanding the existing structures.
CCP then explained that they are working on deciding on what they want the next expansion to be.
CCP Orca explained some upcoming changes to CCP’s web presence,consolidating the various websites into a single website.
CCP Dren then explained for NPE,they are looking now at Empire Selection and Character creation, and will be also looking at the Career Agents.
Overall: Fix good ideas that are currently implemented with some issues, then
launch into new stuff.

“Now, no doubt, there will be cries from every quarter about the things that are not mentioned.  There always are.  But they need to remember that this is an overview, not an itemized list of things that will be. But they never do remember that and so the wailing continues.

From there they went on to discuss the communications from the PTB to the general population.  It was (and I agree) deemed better if it all is under one umbrella3 Then came the news of new forums.”


“An archaic asynchronous tool we capsuleers use to leave messages for each other.  Some use it, some do not.  I, out of habit, still patrol and read specific sections.  It looks like the changes are . . . well, interesting.  In some ways the tool will be easier to use but in other ways?  I am not as happy with the disconnect to who we are from who we present as.  CSM council members DID spot that an manage to get the message across to CCP on that point.  From how we talk to each other they started in on the more interesting social interactions.”


Mike nodded, “Shooting. More specifically when we are asked by organizations to do the shooting, also known as events.  I was not happy with some of the information coming out.  Namely  . . .

CCP started by explaining that there isn’t a dedicated engagement team at this time. At this time, most of the events are currently being run on the side by other teams

But took some small measure of hope in

CCP is aiming to hire in some new devs to a new team to work on future events. They would be continuing to expand on the Scope Network work that Team Astro Sparkle previously worked on.

Bottom line is that this sort of thing, while liked by a fair number of pilots is under served.  The rewards types, encounter styles were all discussed and I found myself nodding with a lot of what the CSM said to CCP.  More engaging,  more varied, less predictable.  Prizes that hit the ‘gotta catch em all’ button.  Prizes that boost skills or have ‘open a box and be surprised.  More, better, challenging.”  Mike sighed.  “I need a small break to go out and do a Bus run, can we pick this up when I get back?”

“Where am I gonna go?”  Scotty waved him off.


Lessons and footnotes

This covers about the first 12 pages of the 52 pages in the minutes.  Just my impressions and yes, I will be hitting the next set soon but as one person put it . . . You? Writing a “short” commentary? I don’t believe it (Thanks, Kael)

He is right.  But I will plow through this THEN do a candidates summary.  (wow, lot on the plate)

1) Powers That Be
2) Hell, how would you answer? Comment below if you would
3) One website rather than the scattering that exists these days.

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I know, I know.  Charity in Eve is considered the equivalent of a vegan shark (not happening).  Unless there is strict enforcement of the charity via CCP then people always wonder if it is an intricate scam or the real thing. Some are sure of it . . . see the comments.

It does not help when we have things like Olivia happen.  Trust is hard to come by in Eve and even harder to keep.  It makes you unsure if any charity is real and that is not a bad thing because a lot of them are not, in game or out.

So why am I writing about the blatantly obvious?  Because there ARE real charities.  There are people who use the donations for what they say they will.  If you convert the idea that ‘one charity is false’ into the broader ‘all charities are scams’ you are making a mistake.  It is not a mistake that will cost you  anything but it is a mistake, just the same.

Do I know FOR SURE which player charities are real and which are fake?  Nope.  Does that stop me from being involved?  Nope, and Max said it best when he said (and I paraphrase) that the Coast Guard answers all the false calls because some of them might turn out to be real.  Do due diligence, ask around, pull on loose threads but do NOT just assume everything is a rip off.  Even in Eve

I see this from the other end.  People unwilling to believe that I am handing out free fitted ships in Career systems.  Unwilling to even check it out for fear that I have some foolproof scheme to make them part with all 1 mill of assets they may have.  Usually if two get a ship and say thanks then the rest start to ask if it is real and then I will hand out 6 or 7.  Other systems?  Not a peep.  Doesn’t deter me, I just move on to the next system and try again.

What the is NOT is a request for donations.  I do not need anything for the Bus right now as a few donors have helped me along to the point where I can run smoothly for a month or two. (Thank you to regular donors and new ones like Iskstarter.

I doubt I have changed anything writing this but sometimes if I don’t get up on a soapbox and yell I feel like I didn’t try.  I try to try even when it is trying.

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The scotch seemed to absorb the lights of the bar and transmute it into a golden fire.  Mike swirled his appreciatively before setting the glass down and continuing.  “So we’s given out a few tings this season.  Mainly ships but now comes the more interesting draw.”

Dee smiled’  “What makes a draw interesting?” 

“I asks them to choose what they want to draw FOR.  Did this with ships a week or so back where they had to choose the navy frigate they wanted to be considered for.  One person won one because he was the only damn person who asked for that specific Frigate.  A Minnie one, iffen you is wonderin.”  But now I am asking which folks would rather have, Seeds or Plans.  They either get some starting isk to try their hand at trade OR I can give them a few BPO’s to try manufacturin.”

“How are the choices trending?”

Mike pulled out his comm pad and set it next to the scotch bottle.  “Lessee.  Looks to be 3 to 2 in favour of the Plans.”

“Those are the smart folks, in my opinion.  Isk is nice but a way to MAKE isk is better  But they would need a place to USE those plans wouldn’t they?”

Mikes eyes narrowed.  “Why is it I think you have a place in mind and that be a rhetorical question?”

“Because you are not as drunk as you should be.   Mercenary Coalition is part of the recently announced NETC citadel network, with our Keepstar in Basgerin “Tortuga” which has been declared a freeport.”  He started to tick off items as he went on . . .

* MC is going to go beyond just providing waypoints, however. We will be providing
* Market and cloning services at “Tortuga”
* A separate Sotiyo Engineering Complex optimized for component production
* A separate Azbel EC optimized for research
* A separate Azbel EC optimized for Invention and BPO Copying
* A separate Astrahus citadel optimized for reprocessing and ice refining

– All of these facilities will be free-ported

– For those not yet comfortable in null, we will also maintain a market hub Fortizar in Pulin on the Basgerin gate grid.

– Although MC can not provide security/escort 24/7 365 for those jumping in from Pulin to Basgerin, let’s just say that camping that gate and shooting customers will be frowned upon.”

“Frowns take many forms, I presume your displeasure would be indicated with armaments?”  Mike took a drink and smiled.

Dee spread his hands wide “We are an expressive and demonstrative people.”

“Well I will put te words out when I announces who won.  Whether they decides to relocate ta ya is there business just as ours, if you recall, is ta enjoy this bottle and your glass seems to be empty.”

“Dry atmosphere, I blame evaporation.”  Dee said, reaching for the bottle.


I want to thank the donors of late for their generosity to Operation Magic School Bus as well as CCP Mimic and Guard for the nice shout out on the last o7 show..  I have been able to give things OTHER than fitted ships, now and again.  Christmas Day 5 players got a plex each.

The above is also about choices we make (or think we have to make) in game.

You keep making your choices and have fun doing so.

May your scotch not evaporate and fly it like you won it


(for the record?  I drink rum, not scotch)



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Let it Snow


Mike relaxed and admired the special lighting the deck crew had done to the hanger.  He sat out on the Hull of the Bus, far above the deck the hologram of snow drifted and glowed in the lights that were there.  It was always a hectic time of the year and he was glad to take a moment for himself and just rest.

The Bus took a lot of his time as did the work behind the scenes, fits and shipping and draws and such.  He could not remember the last time he had flown just for his own amusement.  He would have to change that.  ‘all work and no play . . . ‘

His latest amusement had been snow as well.  He spent some time in Jita and would put bursts of snow to blank the scammers and spammers.  Oh it DID mean that he was also spamming but he would limit his actions to a small span of time and then move on.  The funny thing was that others would pick it up and that Jita was, for a little while less scammy as a % of posts.  (It also meant that some people now would never again hear anything Mike had to say as he was blocked)

Ah well. the snow on the ceiling was nice and it distracted him from the other aspect of the holidays.  Dee was gone and there was a hole in his heart because of it.  Loneliness was always worst when others were not and he could see the  . . .

“You gonna mope all day or you coming?”  A voice asked from behind him.

“I was bein introspective like.”  Mike answered.

“That is easier to do with a drink in your hand and folks around you to help with the hard parts, like thinking.”  Scotty grinned and offered a hand to Mike.

Mike took the hand and pulled himself upright.  He took a last glance at the snow above as the cold inside of him warned to the thought of food and drink and friends.  She was gone, yes.  But there were still other people to meet and other things to do.


Merry Christmas everyone.  I will probably do another post soon but I just wanted this snapshot out there.

Oh and I have another hospital story for the next time we sit down to drink.  You’re buying

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Mike stared at the hud, dumbfounded.  Damage?  Where?  Who?  Why?  When?  (how was left out because of legal reasons)  He had been distracted and flying from one region to another, taking his time at the gates but he had not noticed that he had even been shot at but now here he was, half shields that were slowly regenerating.

“Not that I mind being shot at, too much.  But it is almost insulting not to at least notice.  I wonder if I should send an apology.”  He hesitated then brought up the combat log.  Ah, there it must be, he now had kill rights against another pilot Casirio.  “Huh, newbie taking a pot shot?”  He accessed pilot data.  “Nope, no idea what he was using, hell I don’t even know what system he was shooting me in.  Poor sap, hard enough being a bad guy to be so bad AT it that the victim takes no notice?”  Mike shrugged and decided against the apology.

^Mike^  The comm crackled.


^Few months back I helped out with a little extra for the rookies.  was wondering if you wanted to do it again?^

“J,. I always welcome donations.  Last time I called them manners gifts but this time I think I will reward ‘engagement’.”

^Them shooting at you?^

“No, just saying a bit more then ‘me me me’ and ‘thanks’.  Social engagement is important.  You oughta see how few talk in a system, these days.  I see 200+ in local and talk to 5-10 of them.”

^But you keep doing it, anyways.^

“One starfish at a time, yup.”  Mike smiled as the wallet icon blinked.  “Engagement enrichment fund donation received, now to hit the markets.  Thanks J, gotta move on to the next stop.”

^Fly safe^

“Nah, I fly fast or prepared . . . or both”



2 years of doing this, wow.

Yeah someone shot at me and I actually did miss it as I had the sound off and was paying attention to my wife at the time (happy marriage needs that sort of thing, now and again).

What do you guys think, should I spend some time with fireworks to grab more attention?  Or just keep on keeping on?

My thanks to the donors of late, I am behind on  my in game mail.

speaking of mail . . . https://mikeazariah.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/ooc-operation-northern-troll/ this, please.

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Flying in Otter Space


“Ya know”  Mike said to the folks in the bar.  “There are times when you get reeeeal tired of hearing the young ones whine.  I wonder if they get tired of us telling ’em how much harder it was ‘back in the day’?”

“Probably.”  Muttered the drunk to Mikes right. “But who cares what they think or say.”

“One day that may be the guy you want at your back.  I care.”  Mike took another pull of his own drink in a futile effort to catch up.  “Might even be your logi.  Nah, I try to make sure my future is safer by tending to the present that will BE my future, presently.”

“Do you think about your sentences before you say them or what?”  The drunk frowned trying to figure out what Mike had just spouted.

“Nah, what is the point of both of us listening?  But the newbies, some of them nobody should be forced to listen to, whining that they don’t have enough, can’t do enough, that it isn’t fair that they cannot fly a Titan or have all the things right now.  Begging in Rookie Help Chat like they are the only poor folks in there.”  Another pull on his drink.  “They miss the chance to enjoy the challenge, the discovery.  To play.”

“Maybe they have a different way of playing.”  suggested the bartender, checking drink levels and placing a couple of fresh ones down as he cleared the empties.  “Maybe they think there is some ‘get to the good stuff’ action going on.”

“Nah, they’s just lazy.” opined the drunk.

“Some but not all.  Met a guy the other day that kinda made me glad I talk to folks.  New guy but somehow had tripped across my name and wanted someone to tell his adventures to.  I was just doing some industry stuff and had time so I said sure, let ‘er rip.”

I began on 23rd at 16:00, now I found a small group of guys who seemed to have time and interest in being pals and helping me learn, so we went out and I helped tackle as a 3rd web and scram and I accidentally didn’t know podding at low sec gives sec-loss
I came back after 2 pods and 3ship kills as a newborn pirate, I have learned now to move quickly through hisec. The next day I attend another fleet again and learn more about faction warfare hunting and we catch my first killing blow
Today I logged in and checked twitch for evescout and instead found bjorn, I fought cardinal syn last night who gave me many breacher fits and encouraged me

“So he shows me his killboard, kills and assists and he is just so damn proud that it was infectious.  He had a loss as well and shared that with me but the best thing was?  He shrugged it off as part of the experience.  The damn guy GOT IT.”  Mike smiled and took a pull from his drink that drained the glass.  “He said he had done a lot of things and master each of them and was now out to master being a capsuleer. I told him he would have to decide what mastering New Eden meant, to him.

I think I want to become a reliable scout or backup FC.  I was just proud because I wasn’t exactly listening to primaries, and instead free tackling which he called out sometimes.

“He has goals, independent thought that may or may not work well in a fleet.  But damn it he had fun, win and lose.  He has goals and he went out and FOUND things to do FOUND fleets to join.”  Mike raised a fresh glass just set before him.  “To Otter, because he otter do well and we welcome him to the company of pilots.”

“Here here.”  the drunk yelled as he slid from his seat and collapsed on the bar floor.



Yup, I did chat with this guy and yup I quoted some of the convo but damn I don’t know if I managed to capture the sheer exuberance.

So if you are a new pilot and have somehow stumbled onto this rambling blog o mine?  Welcome.  Welcome in deed, in word, in action.  IF you have a story to tell and you want someone else to help tell it?  Let me know but understand that I am doing things in game and in (ew) Real Life and may not always have time for a long chat.

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OOC: All by your onesies

Due to the nature of Operation Magic School Bus I cannot be in a corp, simple as that.  The Bus would be too tempting a target and I would be wardecced and hunted till kingdom come.  I am not complaining, I would expect no less.  But that means I do not have a corp/alliance and I fly alone.  Kinda makes my last post a bit ironic and leads me to this one.  Flying alone.


Except . . . sometimes you can.  You do not HAVE to join a corp in Eve (hell, there are very few things you HAVE to do, being a sandbox and all)  Not everything is about direct relationships with other players although you would be surprised at how wide the impact of anything you do does spread.  I will explain as we go along.

Normally folks think PvE when they talk of Eve solo play.  It is true that solo in hisec is a common choice but I always wonder if that is because it is what is taught by the career agents.  If all you are shown is how to mine then what can we expect you to think the game is about?

Ah, mining.  All alone in a belt, enjoying the view and the steady tick of ore arriving in your ventures hold and the value increasing.  Easy, safe, quiet, time for some netflix or surfing the web while you rake in the cash.  Unless, of course, some player decides that you look like easy and afk meat.  Unless you plan on plexing your account via mining.  Unless you find such activity boring (some do, some don’t).  All alone, right? Wrong.  You probably will selling the ore, meaning you interact and affect the market and the player you sell to.  Unless you are using it to make your own damn stuff then someone else gets involved.  Not to mention the ore you mine is not there for people later in the day who arrive at the belts to find them empty.  I kid you not, there have been hisec wardecs over mining rights.

So maybe missions?  Work for npcs, shoot npcs, all nice and steady.  Hey, Mike was a missioneer, right?  Right.  But that was as a paid account, omega class and I struggled through the T1 and T2 missions to start making decent isk.  T3’s are where it begins to be nice and T4’s more so for me.  I have read of people who make really good money blitzing T3’s but to do that they are in ships and fits that an alpha cannot fly.  It is nice steady casual play, I will not say otherwise and I still do the occasional mission when the mood strikes me.

Trade?  Made for solo, same for industrial, quite often.  After all, are YOU going to trust strangers by giving them access to your wallet or assets?  Yeah, you go it alone and maybe make a fleet of alts to support yourself.  But to be in the market you will be doing pvp of a different sort, you will be interacting with all the buyers and sellers and players from around the world.  You will be alone, in a crowd.

Exploration.  This is my current go to activity when on a break.  Great for casual play and slightly addictive like a puzzle game.  But if you head into low or null?  You better believe you are in a mmo and the other players are willing to make you less solo and more target.  You may be playing alone but you are a cat at a dog show.  I know folks who LOVE this playstyle and then I read things like this and realize that not all folks understand that even though you play alone, you are seldom alone.

PvP ah the life of the solo pilot and in this new age of off grid boosts going bye-bye we might actually see a resurgence or the death of this activity.  Hisec, ganking solo style.  My best contact for this tells me that they are changing career again but they made a steady life of scan, shoot, loot.  Was damn good at it, too.  Alpha capable thrashers backed with a will to kill and a penchant for teaching a bit of violence to inattentive players.  Lowsec pirate on the prowl, nullsec adventurer with a purpose.  Harlock of the spaceways, the Dread Pirate Roberts (I am SURE both names are taken but I am not pointing to the players) willing to go out and do violence all alone, your own man and your own success or failure.  Cool, aloof.

heh, look, you can play solo, casual and with Alpha states that is now easy and cheap to do but I really want to end with a quote from the forums this morning.

Everyone knows that friendship is the best ship in Eve. It sounds corny but it’s true. If you are trying to solo the game then you are missing at least 90% of the content.-ergherhdfgh

I do have one other post in this set to do, being alone in a group, the npsi and events aspect of play.  But then I have other things floating in the writing pool I call a brain as well.

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OOC: Joining the gang

I strongly recommend you read comments on this one as updates to info may be found there.

Eve is a social game, there is no denying it.  Some even call it a very pretty chat program.  But for a new player it can be intimidating trying to fit in to established groups.  You feel like the 5 year old trying to get into a baseball game with teenagers.

So I put a call out on twitter because Eve extends beyond the borders of its own chatter into other mediums like blogs, podcasts, twitch and you tube and Facebook and twitter.  (quick aside>  common eve twitter is #tweetfleet and I am @mikeazariah)  I asked . . .

Now I cannot and have not vetted the answers but all the usual suspects showed up.  Top of the list for learning is Eve Uni.  Close on its heels come the big nullsec pvp groups.of Brave newbies( https://wiki.braveineve.com/ ), Karma fleet (http://karmafleet.org/) and Pandemic Horde ( Forum post on joining Horde ).  If you are looking for a big organization and the chance to be in fleet battles one of them is a good place to go.

Eve University is a long standing teaching organization for Eve and yes the application process takes some time but their classes are very well organized.  Even if you do not join them a lot of their material is free as are the classes, even to outsiders. http://calendar.eveuniversity.org/ is always a good place to see what they are teaching and offering.

Signal Cartel is more specialized group focused on exploration and a very non-pvp stance.   https://t.co/LZku0I6c5N Is where to go to learn about joining them.   Evemail ingame Mynxee or Johnny Splunk. (tell Mynxee I sent you)  RvB is another specialized hisec friendly war that is still ongoing and I actually fought in for a while.  It is a blast for learning some fleet skills but you need to have a source of income to replace lost ships. R-V-B is the in game channel and rvbeve.com is where you can go for more info.

Speaking of violence but on a smaller scale Vagrant Skies is a member of the pirate organization called A Band Apart.  To join them you join the in game channel Vagrancy Encouraged.  (since I assume some of you are new, to join a channel click the little speech bubble at the top af a chat box and then type or paste in the name of the channel I mentioned and say join.  If it is a public channel you will be in and the message of the day should tell you who to talk to about recruiting  I check and Vagrancy Encouraged  does have that info)

Now here is the odd thing and this drives me crazy.  The LEAST advertised groups are the PvE folks.  Miners may group but they stay private for fear of gankers joining to set them up for kills.  Mission runners are the same way.  I started out in a mining corp and enjoyed myself a lot.  We had awoxers and wardecs against us but we survived until the CEO burned out.  It happens.  Being a sheep in a game for wolves is both a challenge and a punishment.  Some take it up and thrive while others are mutton and wool sweaters.  They have good reason to be careful and it is the Main reason Operation Magic School Bus is in Scope.  I make too good a target in the Bowhead to offer the opportunity to be easy prey.  Late Edit https://english.eve-guides.fr/index.php?article=137  is a mixed language group that lays claim to some PvE, I have not personally checked them out but if you do, let me know how it turned out.

Back to violence.  If Faction Warfare sounds good to you then there are lots in each faction to choose from. I have been assured that . . .

I am sure there are others for the Other Races but these guys spoke up when I put the call out and I do know some of the members of that group.  Late edit.  The Black Shark Cult (Caldari) also spoke up, find out mre at https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksharkcult/comments/3ce2v4/black_shark_cult_mission_statement/

Joining makes this less of a game of solitaire and more a hobby, a place where you go to meet up with friends on line.  Find the right corp and you will have things to do and accomplish far beyond what you can do alone.  Find the wrong group?  Get out and find the right group, don’t be a putz.  They will make some demands of you and you have every right to make demands of them.

A forum article on corp finding is worth reading.  Yes in the first few days it is good to find out what can be done and what part you can play.  Yes in the first few days you ARE the five year old tagging along.

But you grow up so very fast

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