It was a short run, as they go but he just was too tired to continue on and had docked the Scimitar and was heading home in something a little faster. The news that he had managed to be in the last battle prior to the Mothership being brought down was purely coincidental.
He sighed and kicked the microwarp on to quicken the pace. A little peace and quiet . . .
The noise in the hanger area was near deafening. Mike wandered towards the crowd wondering what the hell this was about. All he could see was a large gathering of pilots and crews shaking their fists at each other and all drowning out the speaker on a small improvised podium.
The one word that was repeated in damn near every sentences was ‘drone’. “Oho, so the news is out, eh?”
He was considering leaving and quickly when someone spotted him and yelled “There he is, the traitor!”
“That just ain’t right at all.” Mike muttered to himself and pushed through the crowd to the crates that made the podium and jumped up on them. “So . . . Whatchoo want?”
The roar of the crowd was loud but all noise, no signal. Mike held up his hands and waited for them to calm down then pointed towards one in the middle. “You start. Y’all gets a turn but one at a time unless the deal is yer just trying to violate noise bylaws.”
“Drones.” The pilot waved a communique of technology changes. “Did you know about this?”
“I did. I had a voice in it.” Mike nodded and pointed at another pilot. “Yer turn.”
Did you stop and think how this would negativly effect mining fleets? As it is youv allready nerfed mining in non empire to ****, making mining sites not need to be scanned, putting null ice fields on a 4 hour cycle, letting ceptors warp through bubbles. Now one of the last things that miners had to defend with and that was a cloud of drones is gone. -honest blob
“Yer kidding, right? 50 drones not enough to wreck someones day? Or asking that more than one of you be awake while mining? ‘Cause if two of you is awake that is 100 drones. Who is next? You.”
A pilot who looked like he spent more time in a bar than in a ship asked. “Did you even consider other methods of cap? Bandwidth rather than numbers? A new skill to train? different ships able to have larger numbers assigned as they increased in size?”
“Yes. Who is next? You?” Mike pointed.
“Hey! You didn’t answer my question.” The previous pilot yelled.
“Actually, I did. You asked a yes or no question and I answered it, Now wait for another turn and ask better questions.” Mike again pointed to a new pilot.
Add more use to us Command Ship pilots and have a reason to put them more into fleets. Make it a new module to equip kind of like the Drone Link Augmenter and give us a Skill to level up to hit that Cap to 50. Boosting those who Squad/Wing/Fleet command. This fits more players arguments about doing more then your own ships bandwidth and keeps it from just being tossed on whoever has the highest Sig radius to Blap with. Captain Stringfellowhawk
“So what you are saying is you want them limited even further so that only command ships can be assisted? Lemme guess what kinda ship you like. Or are you including T3’s that also fit modules. Gods know I been the drone bunny in a Loki more than once.”
“So you have used this and still allowed it to be nerfed?”
“Didn’t say it was yer turn yet but yeah. Y’all know I fight the Sansha on a regular basis. Most times I fly a scimi but I like being the drone bunny as well. Hell, who do you think argued them up from the zero they started with. WE did, the folks you voted for. But it is a discussion, not a buncha folks yelling at each other. It is absolutely NOT us saying ‘do this’ and it is done.”
A scruffy pilot in the corner groused. “No, they only obey the Goons.”
Mike laughed. “So you figure this was at the Goons behest? That the powers that be dance to whatever tune Mittens plays? Tell me, was the slowcat doctrine hard against the Goons or did they have the numbers and materials to employ it better than anybody else? Will this change be a boon to them more than to any other group? Think, don’t just echo an old refrain. A cap means smaller groups are still effective and larger groups need to be much more organized. In which category are Goons, traditionally? Are they the little or the big?”
“Mittens was demanding the change for months . . . ” Objected the pilot.
“Suuuure. and if he stood at the shore and demanded the tides change would you assume the planets and gravitational forces were all under his control? Or would you think he was calling for something he could see coming to create the illusion that he had power? No, the Goons may have called for it but the change was not because of that. But I CAN assure you they love when you spread rumors of their strength in changing things within the universe.”
“Yeah, smart arse. It was because spacial anomalies by so many warp signatures in one place was creating temporal ripple effects that caused the very perception o’ time to alter.”
Mike nodded. “Might have had something to do with it but I think a few shipyards were lobbying as well. Seems Domis have been flying off the shelves lately, to the detriment of other ship sales, down in null. Thing is that a change does not just effect one thing. You make one change and the ripples reach across all of New Eden. Drones and Domi prices, new fleet doctrines, possible Tidi shifts, Incursion fleet realignments. All of it needs to be considered or acknowledged as being touched by a single change. If it a simple matter of change this to fix that . . . well it ain’t. That is why they bring in the CSM. To get new eyes, different viewpoints on a change. Yer next.” He pointed again.
this feels a lot like a rushed approach from CCP backtracking after the hed-gp drone debacle and B-R fight- Trinity Faetal
Mike nodded. “I can see how you would see it that way but I can only say that changes take a lot longer than the time frame you have here. This has been in discussion for a long time and I have been part of that discussion. It began LONG before Hed or B-R. But y’all have ta take the word of a politician on that one. Next?”
“You CLAIM to be an incursion pilot. How is this not a betrayal of all you work for, traitor?”
Mike took a slow breath before answering. “I just came from a fleet out there, didn’t see you anywheres about. I talked to the FC and a few folks in different fleets. Most know about the changed and are adjusting the fleets to compensate. We will keep fighting and we will adapt. It is a lot easier to whine in the back than fight at the front, but I spose you know that. I watched a drone ball erasing small Sansha ships and kinda got a bit nostalgic but then I was in a 43 man fleet and I can tell you for sure that there were NOT 215 drones in that ball. WE have never taken full advantage of what we could field, some don’t bring drones, others lose them as we move through gates. This was a fresh fleet and the ball kept getting smaller and smaller.”
“But . . .”
“No, there be no buts. A change happens, we adapt. If anything it means there will be more call for bunnies. I love getting the Loki out and shooting things.” Mike pointed to another silently.
This is sooo crazy. Like I never saw anyone use drone assist, not even once. Now ccp comes along and bans it just because some scammers complain? this is like the worst decision ccp ever made. I guess the goons must buy a lot of plex so ccp is kinda held hostage. Rosie O’Sullivan
Mike grimaced. “I thought I already covered that but you do bring up another myth. Goons don’t buy that many plex. I got that from one of the sellers of plex off of CZ podcast. If y’all want to yell Grrr Goons, go right ahead. Just don’t expect me to assist you in laying every wrong thing in the universe at their feet. Much as they enjoy it when you do it just ain’t so. Next?”
From a cloud of smoke a voice called out.
In a hq fleet we normally have vindi’s as dronebunny
That said, its 1 vindi for DDD and the rest shoots whatever the need to shoot.
HQ = 40 people – 10 logi= 30 dps- 1 DDD is 29 dps for the fleet, inportant number when contesting. Effectively using 145 drones for dps.
HQ = 40 people-10 logi =30 dps – 3 dps for DDD = 27 dps for the fleet. Again efectively using 145 drones for dps
Imo this does change things alot.
The fc lost 2 dps for the fleet since they get a new role.
The inplementation in the fleet among 40 people is going to be a hassle to put it mildly. – kranyoldlady
Mike squinted into the smoke and grinned. “Kranny? Damn nice to see you. Yeah I said it is a change but it will be one that hits both sides when it comes to contested sites so no advantage is lost. Yeah, it will be a hassle, short term, while incursion FC’s work out the new dynamics but I figure we are up to the task, don’t you? Or to quote my fellow councilor, Maclanis
Well I’m confident that the highly skilled, well organised, very motivated Incursions community will be able to adapt to this minor obstacle.”
Mike paused before pointing to another person. “Look it comes down to something one of the authors of the change said.
The primary goal of this change is to improve play experience in large fleets. The secondary goal of improving server performance plays a part but it is not our main intention (in this change) to attack the power of the Dominix or any other ship specifically. We will measure the effect from this change with many metrics, including a lot of feedback from players, not just one ship’s PVP damage. CCP Rise
I stand here in a Gallente Station and am arguing about the most Gallente of weapons systems, the drone. But have you forgotten WHY drones are here? Why we have fewer crew than any other empire? We are about freedom, individuality. Assist of our weapons should piss you off. THAT is the abdication of your power to some other pilot, or authority. THAT is not what we stand for. Each pilot should be responsible for his own actions, his own weapons. If there is a Gallente fleet we work together because we are all THERE, not having assigned our firepower to another. You want to be like that then call up your local Sansha recruiter . . . or join the Goons.”
Mike looked about and finished with “Look, you gots something to ask me, sent me a note, I usually does answer. But it y’all are just whining because you feel like somebody stole yer candy . . . well I will still answer but it won’t be as sympathetic.”
Another threadnaught in the making. I wonder how much of it is because Mittens pinged his people and TOLD them to troll and laugh in that thread?
Changes happen in a game . . .It is proof the game is growing, changing.
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