OOC: BB75 FPS hopes Project Nova

Welcome to the continuing monthly EVE Blog Banters and our 75th edition! For more details about what the blog banters are please visit the Blog Banter page.
What Does Project Nova Need to Be Successful?
At Fanfest CCP showcased their current iteration of the FPS set in the Eve Universe. Following on from DUST514 and Project Legion, Project Nova is shaping up to be a solid FPS with CCP taking the decision to get the game mechanics right first. However with so many FPS out there what will Nova need in order to stand out from a very large crowd and be successful? What are the opportunities and perhaps more importantly, the dangers for CCP? How can Nova compete against CoD, Battlefront and Titanfall to name a few?-o0o-
OK, I have played my fair share of First Person Shooters.  From COD to Battlefield 2042 and 1942 to Planetfall, Firefall, Hellgate London, all the way back to original Doom and Wolfenstein.  They are my release from stress after a hard day and I play them as a casual.  I seldom have a decent kdr and I take pride in the little things.  I actually enjoy the view and the visceral impact of the game rather than strut like I am the big Kahuna.  I am not.
But that is what this game is gonna need to be able to answer . . . can it adapt and accommodate both types of shooter players.  Those whom live to be the very best (Like no one ever was) and those who enjoy a nice afternoon of shooting but would rather not spend it walking into a meat grinder to feed someone’s stats.  Free to play means all the little script kiddies and twitch bunny hoppers will be all over the map.  We will have to worry about wall hax and aimbots and the rest of it.  Ban them and they make another free acct.
Okay, there are some basic points that this sort of game live and die on.  First up is maps.  They have to be vibrant, evocative of the mood being set, challenging for all classes to play in.  If I start feeling like I am just living in the same damn corridor over and over I will not stay with a game.
Guns (lots of guns) that have a feel to them.  I don’t mean they have to ‘feel real’.  This is science fiction but I want kick, tracking, a learning curve for using them properly.  I want to know that if I work at it I will be better than I was.  I don’t have haptic feedback but I want the weapons to make me wish I did.
Differences. Now when I was making notes for this the word differences actually was written twice.  Once for internal and once for external.  Internally each class or choice in loadout needs to feel important and different.  Not just half a step slower and carries a medpack.  I want to be able to, at a glance, know what class is being played on twitch and what playstyle is best for that class.  Externally the game is going to have to differentiate itself from a lot of other similar games on the market right now.  What will make Nova something more than a flash in the pan as shooter tourists come and then go to the next new shiny?
Stability.  Gods, this is important.  Gamers and reviewers are notorious for condeming and damning a game within a few days of launch on the basis of stability, bugs and other server side issues.  No code is bombproof but damn they better have it close.  Lag or downtimes in the first week can be the difference between having a following and being a cute niche game.
Community.  Damn Eve has one and has even won game awards for its community.  Good managers and the willingness to engage with the players has gone a LONG way to developing a vibrant group of players.  Dust had its own version of the CSM but will Nova?  Will people step forward to be the grains of sand that the pearls form around?  The biggest make or break moment will be early on when new people to the game ‘test the edges’.  There is good natured ribbing and then easily a group slides into graphic homophobic, misogynistic, hate fueled mire that is damn near impossible to fix.  Communities that go down that road seldom return and they become the Ouroboros, feeding on itself.  Sen it happen, hope it does not.  Free to play makes for a dangerous open door for people to come dump their toxic waste and scamper off.
I honestly hope that the game manages to balance all of the above.  The New Eden IP is strong and has a ton of Lore behind it.  If they can cross tie the games of Valkyrie, Nova and Eve even a little it will make each stronger.  A solid background and storyline helps.
Free to Play games live and die (as all business’s do) by the money hidden behind the ‘free’.  Monetization HAS to happen as I checked and CCP is not a charitable organization.  How and what they sell will be another telling point but I do not want to get into the whole golden ammo thing right now.  I just hope they feel the same way.
Others have written on this topic . . .
I tried to not read them before hitting send on mine,
sometimes if I do read then I wind up with a post of ‘Yeah, what he said!’
fly it like you won it
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BB74 Not what was seen

Welcome to the continuing monthly EVE Blog Banters and our 74th edition! For more details about what the blog banters are, please visit the Blog Banter page.

So when this Blog Banter goes live, Fanfest will be over. Hungover geeks from around the world will be departing Reykjavik after a five-day binge of important internet spaceships and partying. Whether you were there in person, watched the streams or read the dev blogs on your mobile hidden under your work desk there was probably something in there that gave you a “nerd-boner”. What for you personally was the most important thing to come out of Fanfest 2016?

I thought about this one a lot and at first I almost wasn’t going to post to it.  There wasn’t anything I saw, directly, that ‘made’ Fanfest.  Or so I thought,  same old same old, trailers, vids, new games, old fixes, panels and drunken singing.  No ‘come to Jesus’ moment for me.  Or so I thought.

Then it hit me.  I was looking at the wrong things, paying attention to the details and missing the bigger picture.

Brace yourself.  Sappy Mike writing ahead.

I saw a love for the game from both the players and the makers.  I saw pride for what was made and what was broken.  People putting their hearts and souls into it and just down right celebrating this magnificent obsession we all have.  THAT was, for me the most important thing to come out of EveFanfest 2016.  Speakers were welcomed and listened to and even the bitter vets would lighten up for a moment before trying to regain their cool disdain.

The pubs ran out of beer.

*of course* there is no beer at Nora the day after *grumble*

3rd time in 7 days they run out of beer. Sheesj

 Seriously there was a party.

Oh there were disdainful locals commenting on ‘neckbeards’ but I live in a tourist destination as well, we love commenting on the tourists.

Most of all?  I saw the effort and volunteer hours put in by the CCP side.  Days and weeks of preparation, of practicing and making presentations.  They are programmers and game designers, not public speakers yet they did a damn good job, on their own time.

Be bitter all you want.  Snort and laugh at the silly old Mike and his Sappy stuff.  Probably drinks the blood of maple trees (I do, I do).

The biggest take away was the love for the game on all sides.  No more, no less.

flame away if you want, I have a smile on my face and am trying really hard to swing tickets and time for EveVegas2016.  IF I make it, I wants hugs.

fly it like you won it


other thoughts on this from Roc and Kirith






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Not Having Lost by Not Having Tried

“Why do they call it shredding?” Mike asked himself as he continued to transfer or destroy the sensitive materials he had accumulated.  He glanced to see lights going out on one comm channel as fellow council members bid their farewells and left.

“So, election results are in and there was not a surprise appearance of your name in them.” Dee Carson called as he entered the outer office.

“In the back.”  Mike called back and closed open files and locked them.

“I don’t know if this is a celebratory moment or not.”  Dee set down a bottle and two glasses.  “But this is appropriate, either way.”

Mike grinned while Dee poured and silently they raised glasses.  As the empties were refilled Mike grinned.  “A bit of both, actually.  There were some folks I actually hoped would get on that didn’t but it is not all bad.”

“I would think that it looks pretty bleak from your point of view.  Who replaces YOU?”

“I am not so sure I need replacing as such.  The council is made up of 14 people.  If one or two of them are not closet carebears I will be very much surprised.  Oh they may talk the big fleet talk but somebody has to pay for the ships and I trust most politicians to think with their brains very near their wallets.”

Dee Laughed and poured another shot.  “Do you save those up for the right moment?”

“Professional secret.  No my concern is a bit about the lack of diversity in loyalties but there is nothing that can be done about that.  Not now, anyways.  But if I can get through to a few, over the next month then not everything will be darkness and despair.”

“I thought you were done with politics, now.”

“There is the transition time and even when I no longer have direct access I will be free to still talk.  Folks have found that I can be hard to shut up or shut down.  To quote a hero of mine . . .

Peoples Hernandez: You’re not a cop anymore.

John Shaft: Do you think that makes me less dangerous, or more dangerous?

So I may not be a politician but does not mean I will be walking away and ignoring things.  Too much invested in the process to do so.”

Dee smiled.  “Good.  So you didn’t lose?”

Mike swirled the drink and smiled into it.  “If I was not in the war, how could I lose it?  I am choosing my battles one at a time.  There are new fights to be fought and new things to do.”

“You do know that the Goons are saying the same thing, right now.”




Congratulations to all the winners of the CSM11 election and commiserations to those who are not in, yet.  Do not lose hope, some seats may open up (and I am betting it will not take more than a couple of months, if that)

I am serious about not being done.  Three years did not burn me out and I may even try again, someday for a seat but in the meantime I will still be active.  There is the transition time and I will get to see how the new CSM looks from the inside.  Then I will keep driving the Bus, still in the forums, still talking to people.

sho nuff




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I was torn as to whether to open this with Aretha Franklin singing but this quote has been on my mind for a while.  I wrote a comment in reddit this morning that I wanted to expand upon, just a bit.  There are days where I should not be allowed to post at all as the Troll in me takes hold.  This morning was one of those times.

Respect.  I can win or lose a game and respect my opponent.  Hell I have sent congratulatory notes to people who pod me.  Eve is, for me, a hobby and a game.  At times I need to remind myself not to take it too seriously or else the troll steps into my skin and writes for me.  As such I have to give a measure of respect to that which the Goons have made.  They managed to form a huge organization with managers IT teams, HR programs, security and such.  They used both the velvet glove and the iron fist when dealing with others.  They made something bigger and better than anyone else had.

a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves Genesis 11

Say what you want about what they have become they did great things.  Thing is, then what?  They rested on their laurels.  They rode on their well earned reputation and peace came upon them.  Fear they had instilled in their enemies kept challenges at a distance.  They could buy, intimidate, diplomacy their way around any nascent threats before they became a true worry.

But nothing lasts forever.  It was a contest to see which would die first, Eve or the Goons.  While Eve has been reported as dying for a long time . . . it seems to be hanging on.  Goons, on the other hand, are in full back pedal mode.

Do I think this is the end of them?  No.  I do not think you can kill all of them or break them completely.  But we have proven that it bleeds.  That it is not so powerful that it cannot be knocked down.  Their time of rest is at an end.  They WERE great and you cannot take that from them.  They did huge things in the game and made big differences in many different facets of the game.  In the past I have heard Goons say, if you don’t like it?  Try and stop us, you will never be able to organize all the little groups to do it.

Turns out, that was the mistake.  Hubris in saying that the little groups would never be able to take them down and then continually mocking them.  So sure, in the absolute power of the position, that respect for the lesser beings was lost.  Oh, some might be allowed to ride on the coattails for a time, crash on the couch, but we always knew who owned the house, who wore the coat.  They made sure of that.  They created the beast that rose up against them.

I like a lot of players that are Goons.  I just don’t like the organization they belong to.  The casual racism and sexism even as a joke diminishes players among us.  The terms they use to refer to we ‘lesser beings’ grated.  I am not surprised that they were knocked down.  Huge towers have a way of that happening to them.  (I am referring to the biblical quote, not any more recent events) As individuals they are players of Eve, just like me.  But when en masse?

Mittani leads them.  So he repeatedly tells us.  He did not build the Goons to what they are but he has held the reins for a long time.  He does not want to lose.  Lose power, position, respect.  As such it is in his best interest to try to rally the troops and weather out the storm.  Hope that the alliance against the Goons will fall apart from internal pressures which there are probably many.  Deny the allies any success making each victory hollow, each cake but ash in the mouth. Keep the fires burning in the bellies so that they can bounce back and regain what they once had.  Like the second roman empire . . . oh wait.

Look, I love this game we play.  I like when wars and memes and things are HAPPENING.  But in all of it I still respect most of the players that I have met and interacted with.  Oh I am sure there are some out there not worth respecting.  Humans are like that.  I may go trollish from time to time and mock the people at the top . . . especially when they are making asses of themselves.


We are here just for a spell and then pass on. So get a few laughs and do the best you can. Live your life so that whenever you lose it, you are ahead. -W.Rogers

It does not hurt to show some respect for the other side.  They are giving you someone to play against.  And I am not saying they all deserve respect now and forever.  As I tell my students.

I will treat you as adults until you prove otherwise.  For some of you that will not take too long – me

fly it like you won it


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OOC Tired thoughts

Was up very late last night flying with Mangala and an rvg/spectre ganked fleet.  Mainly Aus pilots with a few I knew, (Like Bam) and many I did not.  Good lowsec roam and my sec staus dropped a fair amount as a result.  But I have a few thoughts I want to toss out and not be limited by twitter characters counts.  (You do know that I am on twitter, right?  @mikeazariah)

  1. Legends return.  #WorldWarBee is bringing back people from the old days of Eve.  Ripard is has written two great pieces for Crossing Zebras.  Mangala is back leading roams. Names and faces long since gone are returning.  It is a good time to be playing.
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY I honestly think that the CFC are working hard to be the bad guys almost to the point of overselling it.  The name calling and wild accusations, the us and them.  Civilization vs the barbarian hordes.  They tried to rebrand themselves and what do they chose?  One of the most corrupt and bloody fictional scifi organizations . . . the Imperium from 40k.  Goons have alost become cartoon of themselves.  Mittens needs to grow a moustache he can twirl and get one of his old larping capes out.
  3. You can fight a war (in game) and still respect the other side.  I may be attacking goons but I get along fine with individual pilots (when we are not shooting each other)  There is no hate.  But that is the tool Mittens seems to be reaching for.
  4. Winning.  How will we know when the war is over and who won?  Who gets to decide that or is it for each to decide?  Is sov the marker?  I number of people in your coalition.  Or is not not over till all the people on the other side . . how did Mittens put it?

    A Hellwar is a solemn promise of vengeance, a grim vendetta that only stops with the destruction or abject submission of those who have betrayed us.

  5. For me the winning has been in the availability of fleets.  the chances to do something and see space alive again.  Last nights roam was not an operation for or against either side.  Just a bunch of blokes out shooting what they could.  Even as a logi, I got a few kills.
  6. When the FC is good (Like Mangala) it is amazing how well a fleet works.  If he asked for a pod to be held or a ship to be kept until all had some damage on it the ship did not pop.  Calm, fun, there was chatter but there was also good communiication when there needed to be.  If you get a chance?  Be in one of his fleets.
  7.   I really wish I could go to Fanfest this year and meet more players, face to face.  I AM hoping for Vegas in the fall.  Come on CCP, announce the time and dates.
  8.   Saw a rare event in Rookie Help Char, today.  Two GM’s AND Two ISD as well as the usual crew of vets.  Questions were being banged out of the park fast and well.  Over 2200 in the chat . . .a good sign.

well that is it, for now. I am gonna go have a coffee and go for a walk.

fly it like you won it.


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The downside of War

Mike leaned back and told the boys of his day, a pod hovering behind him, no sign of a ship.

“The new day dawned and I had the ship chosen for the next fleet.  Even though I had lost two yesterday I though today would be better luck, bigger fleets.  Timers were due and folks seemed really hyped.  Dammit I should have looked at the calendar.

Form up took time as there was overwhelming support for the fleet.  I mean REALLY overwhelming support.  I was tired of being the slow man so I decided to fly a svipul and be one of the fast tackles.  Okay, that was my first mistake.

The main fleet filled swiftly, 250+ mainly Gilas and Basis and they said any other ships could spill over to the fast fleet forming.  So I dropped the first fleet (Douglas’s) and joined the second. (Dizzits)  The second was becoming a kitchen sink as the main fleet even ran out of room for Gilas.  So we were no longer the fast fleet, not by a long shot.  The main left and we spent time setting up, collecting folks, and waiting for the FC team to set our destination.

That is the part of the fleets most people do not talk about.  The waiting.  You pray they will wait for you if you are late but hate waiting for any other person to join you.  Finally we followed the Douglas fleet but they had cleared the path and any gate camps moved out of our way and then closed in behind us.  (much to the chagrin of stragglers).  It was a logn round about path that we took and the scouts got mostb of the little kills and we were left to follow behind.  This went on for a few hours and finally we wound up in VFK.  Surrounding nodes were being entosed but none of us had thought to fit one . . . a mistake I will not see again, I think.  We moved through the constrellation and that was one of the two places I actually had a chance to fire and get some kills.”


“But as you see,”  He pointed to the red lines at the top of the page.  I got separated from the fleet when they decided to take a longer way home and ran straight into a gate camp.  Didn’t make it through.”

“So it was a lot of flying and very little shooting?”  Scotty asked.

“Yup.  but sometimes that is what being in a fleet means.  Sometimes we also serve, those who only stand and wait.

thousands at his bidding speed,
And post o’er land and ocean without rest;
They also serve who only stand and wait –Milton

I lost some things and yet, I had a good time in fleet.  Flew with some people I knew and a lot that I did not.  Maybe the losses will be SRP’d and maybe they won”  Mike shrugged.  “Losses happen and I try not to let them happen but . . . ”

“Going to go out again?”

“Of course, if asked along how can I turn down an invite from friends?”  Mike grinned.  “Now what have I got in the hanger to limp back to the Bus route in?”



One of these days I will do a good after action report with all the kills and such but his was just a personal view.  I think Dizzit did a great job of keeping us moving and looking for things to engage.  For a lot of players this war is a new thing and there is, as usual, a learning curve to climb.

Pick a side, take part.

Oh, and fly it like you won it.


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It is pronounced He-La

Mike docked and slid down the ladder, chuckling.  So they didn’t get the fleet fight they were hoping for.  The still were out there.

It had started a day earlier with Jayne telling Mike that Spectre fleet was going on a roam and he was welcome and even invited to go along.  Basis and Gilas.  Mike looked at the fits and grinned.  “I can do that.”

His oly questions was . . .

“Oh, I hate asking this but . . . how much do you guys need basis?  I would prefer to be shooty but I am a damn good logi pilot.”

Jaynes answer was to the point.  “If you prefer to be shooty, be shooty”

The next morning Mike, of course, messed up his times while doing a Bus run and wound up a wee bit late but made it in time to be invited along and be with the fleet when they set out.  He searched the fleet list to see what squad he was in as they flew along and was frustrated at not seeing his name anywhere.  He was about to ask when it clicked.  He went back and looked again.  He was Wing II commander, Mangala was Wing III.  Mike grinned and promised himself not to get too lost as he often did when in fleets.

That promise lasted all of three minutes.  “Check links people.”  The FC called out.

Mike keyed the comms.  “Uh, I am a bit behind, gimme a minute.”  He looke dta his destination and realized that his route settings were still set for safest.  He was not with the fleet because he was taking the long way around.  Resetting the route settings he quickly caught up and made the promise . . . “Okay, I won’t get lost again.  (please don’t get lost)”  The last part was under his breath.

Systems came and went.  He almost got lost in one where his cap ran out midwarp but he kept up, otherwise.  They got an osprey on one gate as first blood but the timers, according to the scouts were earily quiet.  Though time ticked away and things changed hands the Goons were not coming out to dispute the losses.  They were followed by some navy slicers for a little while but that small gang decided that they would find better hunting elsewhere.

Gate sitting, wondering where a fleet might be found to fight they turned and headed into Deklein.  Also quiet, all the way to VFK where Mike delighted in posting in the Local  ‘Hisec sends its regards!’  Others posted art and taunted but nobody came out to play. (Soon after another hunting fleet came and entosed all the structures in VFK setting them on the road to turnover.)

Finally scouts spotted a caracal fleet and the stalking began.  The only problem was that the caracal fleet had more than one set of predators hunting them.  A bomber fleet had also picked up their trail and was moving in.  The bombers got there first.


That was pretty much the end of the fleet as they cleaned up the remnants of the caracals on the far side of the gate and then set back for Torrinos.  Only a few losses and some interesting news on the way made for an enjoyable trip, overall.



After action reports are fun I tried to take notes but I also did not want to get left behind.  https://zkillboard.com/kill/52919975/ I only got in on one kill as the fleet was very effective at erasing things near it.

doesn’t matter.  I had fun

if you get a chance?  Joan a roam, take part.

fly it like you won it


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BB #73 This is the Droid

“So soon(tm) we will have Eve Online, Valkyrie, Gunjack and the as yet untitled FPS to replace DUST514/Project Legion. Are we missing anything else? Are then any other games CCP should be looking into? Colony building simulators in the style of Sim City or Rimworld. Should it be on a grander scale link Civilisation or Stronghold Kingdoms. How about RTS games ala Command and Conquer. Survival games such as Rust? Planet based combat like World of Tanks? Would you like to see other game types expanding the Eve Universe or should CCP stick to what it knows?

It has been a while since I did a Blog Banter but this one sang to me.  A side from Eve and a few other casual MMO’s like ESO and The Division most of my gaming is done on Android devices.  This is the hole I would like to see filled by CCP and far more connected than they already have.

Valkyrie, Gunjack, the ‘shooter’, all of these use the IP but the connection to Eve is only that of naming and owners.  Dammit I want to see play that benefits me across platforms.  What I do in A has an effect on B.  If I defend a mining platform in Gunjack I should see a bonus of some sort in eve mining or reprocessing.  If I fly well in Valkyrie I would like to to show on fighter or drone control in Eve.  Better would be if I could have freinds that also benefit me.  I make a clan/corp/guild in one game and the benefits funnel to the connected corp in another.

Spread, connectivity, consequences that span gaming systems.  I play on a bus and it pays off when I get back to my desktop.  I convince my wife that the android game is fun and step 5) profit.  Connectivity is not a new idea for me.  I wanted snapshots taken of huge battles and then used as backdrops in Valkyrie so you could say ‘see that there?  That was me.  That ship over there tanking it strong?  PGL’  Fly through the history of Eve in other games.  For DUST 514 battlegrounds I thought it would be cool to have the sites not repetitive but laid out according to actual PI setups on that planet.  Yeah, I dream a lot.  But this would mean the battles would be different and no memorization of the camping spots.

Till then?  Clash Royale and the like . . . but man I want me some Eve on my phone and tablet.

fly it like you won it


Oh and others who have had something to say one this include




There may be more that I missed but that is a start



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OOC: Random thoughts

A few things bumbling about the cavern I call my mind.

Somer Blink did not know what to do with their ISK fortune and in the end, chose poorly

I Want Isk came to the same crossroads and seem to have decided to be a game changer . . This would be like some rich mogul deciding to run for office rather than be a money launderer for the mob.  Oh wait.

I wonder if there will BE a big battle or this will be a Vietnam with individual hills lost and taken with the occasional loss of a dockyard and no set piece Vimy Ridge.

Is it just me or does the timing of all this JUUUUST before citadels drop seem not so coincidental?  Nah, it is all IWANTISK and SMA right?  right?

The koolaid is free flowing on both sides and delusions running so high I am surprised that there is not a Unicorn doctrine.  (please tell the there are no Unicorns in Eve, besides me)

This will give people who are going to fanfest something to talk about.  (wish I could go)

I really wish I had hit IWANTISK up for an Operation Magic School Bus donation before they started all this.

I have one month (or less) left as a CSM member.  I feel like I should make one last heroic push for something.  Question is . . . what?

fly it like you won it



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Mike was sitting, sipping his coffee, and laughing as the news-feeds scrolled by.   The war was warming up and he still did not have a single iota of need to go join.  But oh the war of words was so fun to watch.

He thought back to other days and other propaganda wars.  He shuffled through old files and found a quote . . .

Do not be so foolish as to not listen to REASON, rise! Trust the truth, verify the facts and you will see that I am right!

Why does BoB make you pay for space you can not make money from, RISE members? They know we camp your systems every day and night. They know you can not mine or rat without a high risk of dying. They know you will have the weight of the largest alliance in eve history pushing down on you soon. They know these things the same as you and I, but why have they ordered the withdrawal from your region? Why have they not brought you supplies, POS fuel, or capital fleets for your defense? Why has BoB not even so much as used a titan to jump bridge one of your members to make a tiny bit of profit somewhere, anywhere?


Now it looked like that same piece could be re-used with only a bit of swapping of names.  The irony of the once brave heroes now being the villians was not lost on Mike.  It happened far far too often.

The biggest irony of all, in Mikes mind was that it was money that was bearing down on the defenders.  They who once would darken the sky with rifters had graduated to ‘we didn’t want that anyways and it has already been replaced’ attitude.  The hubris and challenging questions of ‘who dares challenge us’ had been answered.  What they had come to worship had turned on them.

“A glutton commits gluttony.  Karma is an Iron.”  He sipped his coffee again.



Yeah, I am in clip and jump mode.

Look intro the eve reddit area and the posts labeled propaganda… they are fun to read.  Listen to Mittens justify the withdrawal from Vale.  sigh

If you are reading this on a mobile, I apologise.

Look, even if you never plan on going to the war, watch the show attached to it.  Hell, maybe there will be a kickstarter of the Book to chronicle the great war.

Or maybe the money will run out and everyone will wander off and it will end with a fizzle, who knows?

fly it like you won it




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